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John Mansell

John Mansell

Male 1723 - Aft 1801  (> 79 years)

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    Massachusetts, Town Vital Collections, 1620-1988
    Massachusetts, Town Vital Collections, 1620-1988
    Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
    Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988

    Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
    Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
    birth date: 1723
    birth place: London, London, England
    christening date: 17 Jan 1723
    christening place: St Mary, Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
    London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
    London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
    London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1539-1812
    Mansell family of Maine/DAR Patriot Index
    Mansell family of Maine/DAR Patriot Index

  • Name John Mansell  [1, 2
    Born 1723  London, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Christened 17 Jan 1723  Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    • This is not certain, but it is likely that he was from London based on later testimony of his son.
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 1801  Brewer, Penobscot, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3233  drabold
    Last Modified 19 Jun 2015 

    Family Leah Simmons,   b. 12 Feb 1725, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1768, Orrington, Penobscot, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 44 years) 
    Married Scituate, Massachusetts Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Children 
     1. John Mansell,   b. 09 Aug 1745, Scituate, New Plymouth Colony, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Ann Mansell,   b. 29 Jun 1749, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1797, Orrington, Penobscot, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 47 years)
     3. Captain Joseph Mansell,   b. 20 Dec 1750, Scituate, Massachusetts Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 01 Jun 1845  (Age 94 years)
     4. Abigail Mansell,   b. 01 Jun 1752, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Nov 1857, Dover, Piscataquis, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 105 years)
     5. William Mansell,   b. 23 Jan 1754, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1775  (Age 20 years)
     6. Leah Mansell,   b. 08 Sep 1757, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Sep 1850, Maxfield, Penobscot, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 93 years)
     7. Peleg Mansell,   b. 23 Sep 1757, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1757
     8. Jane Mansell,   b. 25 Sep 1759, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1854, Medfield, Norfolk, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 94 years)
     9. Mary Mansell,   b. 27 Dec 1761, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1810  (Age 48 years)
     10. Lillis Temperance Manselll,   b. 22 Oct 1763, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 01 Aug 1826, Greenbush, Penobscot, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years)
     11. Lucy Mansell,   b. 11 Jun 1766, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1837, Passadumkeag, Penobscot, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
     12. Ruth Mansell,   b. 22 Oct 1768, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1769  (Age 0 years)
    Photos
    Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
    Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
    Last Modified 19 Jun 2015 
    Family ID F1161  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 1723 - London, London, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 17 Jan 1723 - Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Aft 1801 - Brewer, Penobscot, Maine, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - - Scituate, Massachusetts Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Bangor Hist Magazine:

      (Some sources say he was born in Scotland; I note one in particular that says "London via Scotland"). The references to kilt recalled by his sonsuggest Scotland, but rather vaguely! Some source make him from London and attribute parents to him, I dont know how plausibly, see the end of thisnote.

      The following facts were taken from the mouth of Capt. Joseph
      Man sell, in writing, June 0, 1831, with additions and revisions care-
      fully made, on this 5th of March, 1838.

      Joseph Mansell was born at Scituate, Mass., Dec. 20, 1750, and
      consequently was eighty-seven years of age last December. His
      father, John Mansell, came from London, and married at Scituate.
      He had four sons, and eight daughters. He lived in Scituate, until he
      was eighteen years old. When a school-boy, he recollects his only
      school-book was the Psalter. Each scholar read severally and alone in
      succession, and spelled from the lesson. A punishment of wrong
      doers was for one boy to hold another on his back, while the master
      stripped up the outer boy r s jacket, and applied the rod in a very feeling
      manner. As to dress, (he says) the men and boys, when he was young,
      wore " Kilts ," \ viz : trousers very wide, which came down only to the
      knees, to which the stockings extended — buckled or gartered above the
      calf. The knees were very apt to be cold. He says there was a whole
      regiment of Scotch Highlanders at Biguyduce, with kilts not so low,
      nor stockings so high as the knees ; the latter being bare.

      Capt. Mansell says he came to Biguyduce in April, 1768,§ and went
      up the river Penobscot in 1771, and found in what is now Bangor,
      Jacob and Stephen Buzzeil, Simon Crosby, the Smarts and Jacob Den-
      net. James Budge first resided at Eddington-bend, or rather at the
      mouth of the Muntawassuck stream, below the bend, removing there
      about 1774, and to Kenduskeag, some five or six years afterwards. He
      thinks James Dunning came in 1772. He, Mansell, built for Solomon
      and Silas Harthorn,* a saw-mill not many rods from the mouth of Pen-
      jejewalk stream, and assisted in constructing the stone bridge and dam
      over the river, which was afterwards the county road. About fifteen
      years afterwards, he built a grist-mill at the same place ; the first in
      the Plantation. In 1773, he married Elizabeth Harthorn, Silas Harthorn's
      daughter: they never had but one child, who died when three months
      old. After marriage, they removed over the river, and began to keep
      house at a place nearly opposite to the mouth of Penjejewalk stream.

      The events of 1775, such as the battle of Bunker Hill, the burning
      of Falmouth, and the dismantling of Fort Pownall, awakened the people
      on the Penobscot to a sense of their exposure, and to measures for
      their defence. That year. Orono and other chiefs or captains of the
      Penobscot Indians, with one Andrew Oilman, who had, years previously,
      joined himself to the tribe, went to the Massachusetts Government,
      and offered their services, professing to be staunch Whigs. After their
      return home to Penobscot, a company was raised by order from
      Government, which consisted of twenty white men and ten Indians,
      organized thus: the aforesaid Gilmanf was commissioned lieutenant
      commandant: Joseph Alansell was orderly sergeant, William Patten
      was also a sergeant, and Ebenezer McKenney and Samuel Low were
      the two corporals. These were all the officers of the company, which
      was probably the first military band ever formed in the vicinity of
      Kenduskeag. Their head-quarters, or place of lodgement, was in the
      angle between the road to Orono and that on the margin of the river,
      two hundred rods above Penjejewalk stream, below where William
      Lowder now resides. Here was a kind of rugged fort or shelter. The
      company continued together, acting as rangers, until the British took
      possession of Bagaduce neck.

      After this, most of the settlers took, as required, the oath of
      allegiance to the Crown, and went down and worked on the Fort ; but
      some refused to do either. Hence, all the obstinate were threatened,
      and the houses of several were burnt to ashes. For instance, old Jos.
      Page's house at Penjejewalk, and James Nichol's house at the Bend, in
      Eddington, were committed to the flames. To the laborers, who went
      down and worked, were delivered rations. The carpenters received a
      dollar by the day, and others at first a pistareeu : afterwards, about
      4s. 6d. Gen. McLaiu commanded at first: a cool deliberate man. He
      was succeeded by Col. Campbell, a violent hot-headed fellow. One
      Harcup, the chief engineer, commanded when Cornwallis was taken.
      Mowett, who burnt Falmouth, commanded the naval force at Bagaduce.
      He was of middle size, forty or forty-five years old — good appearance —
      fresh countenance — wore a blue coat, with lighter blue facings, and had
      his hair powdered. The troops stationed at Bagaduce were English,
      and Scotch Highlanders who talked pretty good English. The latter
      were in kilts, their military costume. At one time, the settlers being
      required by fresh command to work on the fort, and determining not to
      go, sent a message to the American officer at Thomaston, to hinder and
      keep them from that service. In return, a whale-boat, with twelve brave
      Yankees, starting off up the river, was discovered and pursued by a
      British schooner of ten guns, and a party of forty Highlanders and
      twenty Tory rangers, commanded by '•Black Jones," a Kennebec tory,
      and came near being taken : being prevented by Mansell.

      Capt. Mansell says, after the British took Penobscot, he went to
      Machias. He had a Lieutenant's commission, and did duty there, six
      months. Machias Fort was between the West Branch and Middle
      River, where the west village now is. John Allan,* a Lieutenant
      Colonel, commanded there. He was a hot-headed whig from Nova
      Scotia, where he had been a Judge of the Common Pleas : a man of
      good learning, of superior abilities, and of great activity. Displeased
      with some act of the Provincial Legislature, he left that country, and
      joined the American cause. He had studied the Indian character, and
      had the faculty to render himself exceedingly agreeable to them. His
      command over them was complete, especially at Passamaquoddy and

      St. John river. By firing two nine-pounders, in quick succession, he
      could raise an alarm that would reverberate, by means of the Indian
      relays, and reach even to Halifax. Major George Stillman was second
      in command. The whole force consisted of one Infantry company,
      officered by Capt. Thomas Robbius, Lieut. Dyer, and Lieut. Joseph Man-
      sell : a small artillery company commanded by Lieut. Albee, and an
      Indian company commanded by Capt. John Preble, son of Brig. Gen.
      Preble. His Lieutenant was Lewis Delesdernier.* Tue whole number
      of Indians there and elsewhere under pay, was perhaps sixty in all.

      After his return to Penobscot, and before the close of the war, there
      was a militia company formed, embracing all the able bodied men on
      each side of the river, from Sowadabscook stream upwards, — the first
      one established up the Penobscot: of which Capt. James Ginn, (of the
      present Orrington) was the Commandant, and himself, Joseph Mansell,
      was the Lieutenant. After the war closed, there was a new arrange-
      ment of the militia. Capt. Edward Wilkinsf had command of the
      company below Peujejewalk stream, — and he, Mansell, had the command
      of the one which embraced all the soldiers above on that side of the
      river, and also all on the other, on the eastern side. J When Wilkins
      resigned, he was succeeded by Capt. James Budge, § who had been an
      adjutant. Ultimately, the soldiers of Bangor and Orono were classed
      together, and for many years formed one company. Of the upper
      company, Capt. Mansell resigned about 1799, and was succeeded by
      Capt. William Colburn, of Stillwater, who had been Mansell's lieutenant.
      Emerson Orcutt was ensign. Some years, or a year before, Mansell
      had removed over on the west side of Penobscot. The first settler at
      Stillwater was Joshua Eayres, his house being on the flat, eastwardly
      of the present village. Next, was Jeremiah Colburn. The plantation
      was first called "Deadwater." But one Owen Madden, a schoolmaster,
      a discharged soldier from Burgoyne's army, who had been stationed at
      Stillwater, New York, changed the name from Dead to Still- water, as
      a better sound. He was a schoolmaster in Bangor and Orono. He
      would occasionally drink to excess, but possessed a good disposition,
      and was well educated. Philip Lovejoy was the first settler on the
      plains; his house being near where Ashhel Harthorn now lives. He
      married Polly McPheters.

      Marriage record:
      Groom's Name John Mansel
      Bride's Name Leah Simons
      Marriage Date 15 Nov 1744
      Marriage Place Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts
      Groom's Father's Name

      Other resources:
      http://www.knappgen.com/N0207.html

      This from the Mansell discussion group (I have not checked this out, evidence is needed!):

      Notes for JOHN MANSELL:
      Source: Donald E. Mansell, MD
      John Mansell, born 1723 in Rotherhithe, London, England. He emigrated to Scituate, MA when he was 18 years old, in 1741, and married Leah Simmons.They had many children, including four sons (John II, Joseph, ?, and William, and eight daughters. He was a soldier in the French and Indian War andwas at the taking of Cape Breton. He served with the New England volunteers who captured Fort Louisburg, Nova Scotia, in 1758, under GeneralAmherst. He is said to have removed his wife to the province of Nova Scotia and returned to Scituate, afterward to Penobscot, ME, now Castine, in1768. He then moved to that part of Orrington, now Brewer, ME in 1771. Rev. War Vet in Maine - Bangor Cemetery.

      There is some belief that this is the birth record, but I know of no reason to be certain about it :
      Baptism Date: 17 Jan 1723
      Parish: St Mary, Rotherhithe
      County: Surrey
      Borough: Southwark
      Parent(s): John Mansell,
      Mary Mansell
      Record Type: Christening
      http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&tid=22173201&tpid=1196069904&MSAV=1&msT=1&ssrc=pt_t22173201_p1196070786_kfpidz0q3d1196073340z0q26pgz0q3d32801z0q26pgPLz0q3dfpid&gss=angs-c&gsfn=John&gsfn_x=NN&gsln=Mansell&gsln_x=XO&rg_81004010__date=1723&msbpn__ftp=Scotland+%28%29&rg_81004030__date=1801&msdpn__ftp=Brewer%2c+Penobscot%2c+Maine%2c+United+States&_82004020__ftp=Scituate%2c+Plymouth%2c+Massachusetts&cpxt=1&uidh=935&=s&cp=0&mssng0=Leah&mssns0=Simmons&pcat=34&h=2329938&recoff=9+10+38+39+51&db=LMAearlyparish&indiv=1

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      Marriage date: 29 Nov 1744
      Marriage place: Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts

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      Marriage place: Scituate, Massachusetts

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