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TENTATIVE Parents John McPhedris

TENTATIVE Parents John McPhedris

Male Bef 1707 - Aft 1768  (> 61 years)

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  • Photos
    History of McPheeters
    History of McPheeters
    derry
    derry
    A part of N. Ireland relevant to McPhetres
    1669 hearth rolls
    1669 hearth rolls
    Nicely shows the McPhetris familes and what they had in 1669. Its possible that Archibald is the same one that latter appears in NH
    Deposition of John McPhetre (1768)
    Deposition of John McPhetre (1768)
    From NEHGS, 1885. It lists various depositions of Meerymeeting Bay pioneers. John McPhetre seems to say that he lives five miles from Somerset. I believe this is Somerset Forest, just on the south side of Colreraine. Its near the Antrim border. This fits very nicely with living near Ballywatt and Balarashane.







  • Name John McPhedris  [1, 2, 3
    Title TENTATIVE Parents 
    Born Bef 1708  Londonderry, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Testified that he was from County Londonderry, easternmost part six miles from Water Bann and the Antrim border. [Thank you Harold McPheeters]
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 1768  Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I5167  drabold
    Last Modified 25 Mar 2016 

    Father John McPhedris, Capt (?),   b. Abt 1675, Ballyrashane, Londonderry, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1712, New York (?) Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 38 years) 
    Family ID F3650  Group Sheet

    Family Isabelle Stinson,   b. 1710, Ballyrashane, Londonderry, Northern Ireland (?) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 1729  Ireland or US Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • I dont know where he married. Suspect it was in Londonderry.
    Children 
     1. Mary McPheters,   b. Nov 1730, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. James McPheters,   b. 28 Nov 1732, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Jane McPheters,   b. 1735, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Archibald McPhetres, Pvt,   b. 07 Dec 1738, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1820, Orono, Penobscot, Maine, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
     5. Sarah McPheters,   b. 20 Dec 1740, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Elizabeth McPheters,   b. 10 Nov 1742, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. Hannah McPheters,   b. 16 Jun 1745, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     8. John McPheters,   b. 28 Dec 1747, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1782  (Age 34 years)
     9. William McPheters,   b. 21 May 1750, Georgetown, York, Massachusetts, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jan 1791  (Age 40 years)
    Last Modified 19 Jun 2015 
    Family ID F1900  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Bef 1708 - Londonderry, Northern Ireland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 1729 - Ireland or US Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Aft 1768 - Massachusetts, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • [courtesy of Mr Harold Mcpheeters]

      There is probably a connection to the Sea Captain, Archibald Mcphaedris who came to Boston about 1709, but its not clear. {DD note: I have come upon secondary sources that claim that John Mcpheadris of New York, who married Helen Johson in 1712 is brother of Archibald of Portsmouth. Let me point out too that in the deeds of Archibald of Portsmouth there is mention of the Casco projects -- Archibald was somehow involved there -- one could interpret this as where John is, a young nephew or cousin of Archibald?].

      The Maine McPheters family (from my research) descended from a John McPhetres (whose name appears in many variant spellings) who first came to the shores of the Colonies as a seaman in the British Royal Navy around 1725. He later (Fall 1729) returned with his wife and some family on a ship that (according to legend) was headed from Northern Ireland (Belfast) to the Pennsylvania Colony where several other Presbyterian Scots-Irish settlers had gone and found refuge from difficulties with the Church of England. A few other young McPheeters families had already gone there in the early 1720s and settled in the "Irish Settlement" in the areas of Lancaster and Chester Counties of the Pennsylvania Colony.

      But this ship was blown off course in a storm and landed late in the fall in the harbor of the Kennebec River Estuary of what is now the State of Maine, but was then the Massachusetts Bay Colony. As the party and crew debated whether to go on to seek Pennsylvania or make camp there for the Winter, a British Man '0 War appeared with a Ca pt. David Dunbar, who explained that he was Surveyor for the King to seek sturdy pine masts for British Navy ships and for which he had been promised a Colony of his own. He urged the colonists to remain there and be the first residents of his new Colony. I found a copy of a petition dated in late 1729 from those colonists, including John McPheters, to Ca pt. Dunbar asking him to make haste to get the official declaration of his "Colony of Georgia" so they could be clearing their lands and getting ready to plant crops when Spring arrived. (This surprised me since this Colony of Georgia, where I live, was not created until 1733). But apparently, Capt. Dunbar was mistaken orthe Admiralty snookered him out of his Colony. In any case, the colonists decided to remain there and set up cabins on Arrowsic Island in Kennebec River estuary. John and Isabella (Stinson) McPheters raised ten children there.

      According to the Scotch-irish list, there is this comment which may be relevant

      The McPhedris family came from Millnagowan: Gilbert was living there in 1613. In 1618 he leased about 200 acres which he left to his wife Margaret Cathcart when he died and then his son William. In the Hearth Money rolls for 1669 Archibald McPhedris was the owner of a large home with 3 hearths. For this period it was a very large house.

      I note that there are several Mcfadrish that appear in Scotland ca 1700.

      See: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Scotch-Irish/2001-08/0997664779

      Note: There is a Loughgeil McPhedris family, one of whom. Capt. William, was prominent in the 1641 uprisings, and was deposed, see 1641.tcd.ie


      NEW:

      The years 1718 and 1719 at Merrymeeting Bay
      In a previous chapter the voyage of the shipMaccallum" was described, and it was made evident that her passengers from Londonderry settledon lands at the Eastward. These lands skirted alarge body of water, known as Merrymeeting Bay,which is formed by the Androscoggin River entering the Kennebec. Southack s map, covering thisregion, bears the inscription, "An actual survey ofthe sea coast from New York to the I. Cape Briton. . . by Capt. Cyprian Southack. Printed and sold by Wm. Herbert, London Bridge & Rob4 Sayer. . . Fleet Street. " On the land between Brunswick and Maquoit Bay there is an inscription which states that in the years 1718, 1719 and 1720 five hundred emigrants from Ireland had come to settle ; the inscription reads :
      "Kennebeck River very Longstrong Tydes with all its branches Trade mostly is as yet Lumber Fish small matter came from the Kingdom of Ireland within three Year: 1720 five Hundred Inhabitants and made new Settlements for Farming and Lumber."
      In the English Pilot, Part IV, London, 1737, the map described as "The Harbour of Casco Bay, ByC yprian Southicke," indicates a church and several houses between Maquoit Bay and the Androscoggin River. The words "Irish new settlement "show the character of the inhabitants.
      By the depositions of David Dunning, Jane McFadden, and her son Andrew, and John McPhetre,we learn that some of the people who settled here in 1718 "removed from Ireland to Boston, from Boston down to Kennebec River and up Merrymeeting Bay to a place called Cathance."
      A summary of these depositions follows :

      David Dunning, gentleman, of Brunswick, deposed October 8, 1767, that on or about the year 1718 he came first to Boston, and in the same vessel with Andrew McFadden and his wife (now widow). Soon after they came down together in the same vessel to the eastern country, and lived in Brunswickever since 1718.

      Jane McFadden of Georgetown, aged about eighty-two, deposed June 19, 1766, that she with her late husband, Andrew McFadden, lived in the town of Garvo [Garvagh], County Derry, on the Bann Water, Ireland, at a place called Summersett. About forty-six years ago they removed from Ireland to Boston, from Boston down to the Kennebec River and up Merrymeeting Bay to a place called Cathance Point.

      Andrew McFadden of Georgetown, aged fifty three,deposed June 22, 1768, that he was a son of the above Andrew and Jane. Daniel McFadden of Georgetown, aged forty-six, made a similar deposition. Other testimony shows that Andrew and Jane had a daughter between Andrew and Daniel, born on the Kennebec River. They christened her Summersett.

      John McPhetre of Georgetown, aged above sixty, deposed June 22, 1768, that he knew Summersett place on the Bann Water, for he lived within about five miles of it.

      Colonel David Dunning was the son of Andrew Dunning, who was born in 1664, and came with his wife, Susan Bond, to the lower Kennebec, knownthen as Georgetown in Maine. After a year Andrew settled at Maquoit in Brunswick. He was a blacksmith, and died January 16, 1736, aged 72 years. Hischildren were James, Andrew, Eobert, William and David. He and Andrew McFadden evidently were able, thrifty settlers, not unlike those led by McGregor, and they also were from the Bann Valley.

    • Here is a web link to Harold's mentioned petition about the "Georgia" colony....

      https://books.google.com/books?id=9HdQAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA501&lpg=PA501&dq=mcphetres+dunbar+petition&source=bl&ots=l1aV7nP1hg&sig=ahLrer3YHhbwV6m7toEef2qlXow&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cqeGVcuxCsqqNom-gagF&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=mcphetres%20&f=false

  • Sources 
    1. [S309] Maine Court Records, 1696-1854, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2003;).

    2. [S126] Maine Court Records, 1696-1854, Ancestry.com, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003.Original data - York County Court of Common Pleas (1696-1760), Kennebec County Supreme Court (1799-1854), and Washington County District Court (1839-46). Index obtained from Maine Depar;).
      Residence date:
      Residence place: Georgetown

    3. [S32] Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, Gale Research, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2010.Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenge;), Place: Boston, Massachusetts; Year: 1718; Page Number: ..
      Arrival date: 1718
      Arrival place: Boston, Massachusetts